Yeah, don't misunderstand me. I'm sure you produce some very, very good working dogs. I'd be happy to own one. I've just suggested that (like many other working types) they're not 'pure' English bull terriers. Nothing wrong with that. Function is the important thing. Your dogs are bred for function, that's obvious. You mention Ian- who I know, but not well. He has produced some awesome dogs. He works and breeds KNPV line 'x mechelse herders'. That type of dog are not 'pure', but can be a mix of malinois, pit bull, German shepherd and who knows what else! 　 That's not a problem, as they're bred for work and not for show... (the same as your dogs!). KNPV herders are what I call 'performance-bred mongrels', and the good ones are very, very useful animals.